thank you for correcting my mistake purely by accident. L.U.C.I.F.E.R., which stands for Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research, is a chilled instrument attached to a telescope in Arizona. We also offer ebooks, audiobooks, and more, for only $11.99/month. as holy land & it is believed there's a portal or star gate there 01 Mar 2023 11:50:59 For website issues email: webmaster@as.arizona.edu, University Land Acknowledgement Statement, Information for Faculty, Postdocs, & Grads, Promoting a Healthy and Welcoming Environment for our students, staff, and faculty, (Obsolete) Kitt Peak Summit Dorm Room Assignments, Kitt Peak Summit Dormitory Room Assignments, Steward Observatory Committee Assignments, UA Non-discrimination and Anti-harassment Policy, UA College of Science Community Connections, Remembering William John Cocke 1937 - 2022, Catalina Sky Survey Telescopes on Mts. Below are links to the optical and instrument specifications to assist observers. So definitively Lucifer and Haylel have the same meaning (implicitly), however there is one major problem. Despite this proliferation, printing centres soon emerged; thus, one third of the Italian printers published in. Answer: The Vatican did not name a telescope "Lucifer.". Would the Wormwood star be involved? Well, let's leave the Vatican's telescope, and go back over across the street to the LBT. For the Apache in Arizona, one of these sacred places is Mount Graham: this place is called Dzil Nchaa Si An (Big Seated Mountain) and is mentioned in 32 of the sacred songs . Papal interest in astronomy can be traced to Pope Gregory XIII who had the Tower of the Winds built in the Vatican in 1578 and later called on Jesuit astronomers and mathematicians to study the scientific data and implications involved in the reform of the calendar which occurred in 1582. Why? Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario By Greg Szymanski, JD April 23, 2010 The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced today it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument 'Lucifer'. Following the declarations of the sacredness of Mount Graham by the Apache Survival Coalition and the San Carlos Apache Tribe, the Vatican in 1991declared that Mt. Angelo Secchi, at the Roman College. Web. Collaborating with the Steward Observatory, the Vatican Observatory built the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) on Mt. University of Arizona, Vatican and Jesuits Name New Telescope 'Lucifer' Housed at Mt. Since the power line was not included in the first phase of the project, opponents of the project challenged UA in court on the grounds that the power line and all future construction should be subject to the NEPA, ESA, and NHPA. If the spirit of these laws is enforced, it is hard to see how any more telescopes will be allowed on top of Mount Graham. (Mount Graham, seen from U.S. 191, south of Safford, Ariz. Photo by Ben Lund / CC BY-SA 2.0.) Ive had my share of college indoctrination too. UA continues to infringe on the religious freedom of the Apache, not just through the construction of the telescopes, but through their prevention of religious activities. In 1984, the University of Arizona and the Vatican selected Mount Graham as a site for a complex of 18 telescopes. ! At 10,720 feet above sea level, it dominates the otherwise flat landscape in southeastern Arizonas Gila River Valley. Get personalized recommendations, and learn where to watch across hundreds of streaming providers. (Source). In southern Arizona, the proposed site of a new mine is pitting the mining company, Resolution Cooper, against the San Carlos Apache people. Magic nice answer/ Now, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat! They didnt become a one of the richest groups in the world on just donations. Nearly all major telescopes in use (including the Hubble Space Telescope) are reflecting telescopes. Re: Did the Vatican name a telescope lucifer? "Since time immemorial Apache people and Puebloan people have respected that mountain," Riley said. The church may not believe in this ancient law but its as old as the moon. That treaty required the federal government to settle and adjust the Apaches' territories. In 1902, it became part of the U.S. National Forest system and in 1953, it was merged into the Coronado National Forest. Lucifer is a translation, not a transliteration. <, Allen, Lee. Its a telescope built by the Max Planck Institute for extraterrestrial physics and according to their website it stands for LBT Near Infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research. Your email address will not be published. You CANNOT find convex water. VATT The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. VATT The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. That's right $87 million. LOL. Theres no way that were going to allow this to be done," people said. Luk 10:18 And He said to them, I saw Satan falling out of the heaven as lightning. First and foremost the word in the actual Hebrew text (that is translated as Lucifer) is the word haylel () which means morning star. Graham in Tucson. Vatican City is the smallest country in the world. Father Coyne further declared that Apache beliefs were a kind of religiosity to which I cannot subscribe and which must be suppressed with all the force we can muster.. Mount Graham, the colonial name for Dzi Nchaa Si'an, was part of the San Carlos Apache Reservation until 1873, when the federal government seized it by presidential executive order, deeming it. The partial phase ends at 1:51 a.m. It focused on the ancient Prophecy of the Popes and the fact that the pontiff following Benedict XVI will be the final one on this mysterious list of popes, a prophecy that was concealed inside the secret vaults of the Vatican for hundreds of years and which many believe points to the arrival of the False Prophet of end-times infamy. (Stiles. "Apache Tribe Distressed by Privatization of Dacred Land." Arizona Daily Star.11 December 2014. Isa 14:12 is the ONLY place the word Lucifer is EVER used in the Tanakh. But you cant even pull an example of convex water out of that hat Seriously. The only answer being that central casting and planning want it that way. Photo by Claire Cummings.) Sacred Apache land 'on death row' in standoff with foreign mining titans Tribal members in Arizona are fighting to protect a piece of land they consider their "Mount Sinai." Apaches fight. As of 1965 the Mount Graham Red Squirrel was believed to have been extinct. Graham. (Photo by Genevieve Clayton) (DiCosola, Maria. Many of us came to accept the idea that Lucifer was hasatan (satan) long before ever reading the one verse in Isa 14:12, the only place in the Bible which mentions Lucifer. The Vatican, the Jesuits and the University of Arizona, unveiled a new telescope centered upon Apache sacred ground, on Mount Graham, in Arizona. Your third question is answered in my first explanation. Only three telescopes have been constructed so far on the summit, and the Apache people continue to voice their opposition to what they believe is the defilement of their holy place. An international consortium of astronomers composed of the Vatican, the Arcetri of Italy and the Max Planck Institute of Germany led by the University of Arizona has proposed multiple telescopes in the old-growth forest summit of Mr. Graham. January has another delight: a long total lunar eclipse on the night of January 20-21. Debra Krol reports on Indigenous communities at the confluence of climate, culture and commerce in Arizona and the Intermountain West. Baboquivari Peak. Prior to the construction of the Vatican Observatory, Mount Graham was one of the last untouched monuments that embodied sacred energy for the San Carlos Apache. Construction of an astronomical observatory threatens the integrity of Mount Graham, Ariz., sacred to the San Carlos and White Mountain Apache. Reasons to Doubt the Earth is Truly a Sphere, NY Times: Vatican Science Panel Told By Pope Galileo Was Right. not. Notice, the Master says I saw Satan not I saw Lucifer/Haylel etc. The largest of the telescopes, named the Columbus telescope was completed in 1995, on Mount Graham. Mount Graham is one of the four sacred mountains of the Apache people. splendors intolerable blinds feeble, As co-director of the working group for science and epistemology George Coyne, S.J., Director of the Vatican Observatory, initiated a series of research publications entitled, STUDI GALILEIANI. Details: apache-sitgreaves.org, 480-221-9738. The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment nor can it give official names or nicknames to things it does not own. (McLeod, Corbin). Captivating comments from Jesuit priests like Guy Consolmagnoa leading astronomer who often turns up in media as a spokesman for the Vatican who has worked at NASA and taught at Harvard and MIT and who currently splits his time between the Vatican Observatory and laboratory (Specola Vaticana) headquartered at the summer residence of the Pope in Castel Gandolfo, Italy, and Mt. Sonoita. Graham was not sacred because it lacked religious shrines. Graham in Tucson. Design [ edit] One of Arizona's "Sky Islands," a sacred place to Apaches, has been damaged by development and a controversial observatory. The fact that this is a sacred place for the Apache was not taken into consideration. They view the mountain as the embodiment of spiritual energy rather than as a specific place. The mountain has ancient, undisturbed burials, as well as being a source for medicinal plants and a location for ceremonies. * how can they shift their movements into larger and smaller diameter paths? Assemblies who will continue to perpetuate this Lucifer lie, after knowledge of this clear evidence, represent the fool in proverbs. Before pardoning Galileo in 1992, the Vatican, in 1979 set up a Galileo Study group. What one may notice is that many groups who, associate divinity/infallibility with their leaders, and/or the KJV (and any other Text which falsely translates haylel as Lucifer), will be extremely reluctant to accept this simple error, and will become immediately defensive of their congregation and this tradition. (LogOut/ OAK FLAT, AZ - Jan. 10, 2021: Former San Carlos Apache Chairman Dr. Wendsler Nosie addresses Apache Stronghold on January 10 . As one of the Southwest's "Sky Islands," it holds biological riches. But because the mountain was taken away from tribal control, Apache people over the past 150 years have not always been able to find that peace or even pray in their sacred land. The most prolific of those who first classified stars according to their spectra, Fr. The third is an empty building with the movable metal parts waiting in Italy and the mirrors incomplete in a UA production facility in Tucson. This mountain is home to a large diversity of animals that have come up from the heat of Mexico and down from the northern mountains of the Pinaleo mountain range. To many, religious and otherwise, the question of who exactly Lucifer is an easy one to answer. "Mount Graham is considered one of our holy places, one of the sacred mountains to the east and to the south," said Ramon Riley, a White Mountain Apache member who heads the tribe's cultural resource department. Welcome to Mount Graham International Observatory. "House Votes to Sell Apache Land to Foreign Corporation, Tribe Is . Graham in Arizona, the Large Binocular Telescope Observatory (LBTO) has two identical 8.4m telescopes mounted side-by-side. From that time and with some degree of continuity the Holy See has manifested an interest in and support for astronomical research. And not only within Christianity has this idea attained popularity, but within various occultist groups, particularly Satanism and Luciferianism, Satan and Lucifer are commonly used interchangeably. However, Ohio State and Notre Dame have joined the project (selling viewing time at $30,000/night) and now the University of Minnesota and the University of Virginia are considering investing in the project. <, Brandt, Elizabeth. L.U.C.I.F.E.R., which stands for Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research, is a chilled instrument attached to a telescope in Arizona. I took astronomy in college and it is not possible for the planets to move in the sky the way they do without the sun being the center of our solar system. **** LUCIFER Built On Sacred Indian Burial Grounds A 1986 draft environmental impact statement developed by the Forest Service said archaeological sites were detected within the observatory area, and that the most appropriate treatment of these sites must be determined in consultation with the State Historic Preservation Officer and the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation. The Forest Service also said, Presently no known impact on Native American religious use exists.. Both observing time and responsibility for VATT are shared with the University of Arizona on a 75% VORG, 25 % Arizona basis. Only fools are not subject to correction and reproof. http://abell.as.arizona.edu/%7Elbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/Documents/LUCIFER_UM_1.1.pdf"]http://abell.as.arizona.edu/~lbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/Documents/LUCIFER_UM_1.1.pdf, http://abell.as.arizona.edu/%7Elbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/lucifer.html"]http://abell.as.arizona.edu/~lbtsci/Instruments/LUCIFER/lucifer.html, http://thirdsecret.org/content.php?153-Benedict-XVI-build-the-throne-of-Satan. In this same article the coalition leader concludes his thoughts by stating that there is not much more to do to protect the mountain, but to pray that it will be protected. They allegedly crucified and burned at the stake heretics like Bruno, and exiled Galileo, for their trying to prove that the Sun was center of our solar system, not the Earth. I remind you I answered your questions. And not only within Christianity has this idea attained popularity, but within various occultist groups, particularly Satanism and Luciferianism, Satan and Lucifer are commonly used interchangeably. Vatican Observatory. #24 Why Did So Many Apollo Astronots Die Mysterious Deaths in Just Three YearsTime? You have no knowledge of the place you are about to destroy, said Franklin Stanley, San Carlos medicine man, in a 1992 declaration. Graham in south eastern Arizona, and is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory. In addition the director of the Vatican Observatory claimed he was unable to find any authentic Apache who believed the mountain to be sacred, and who could prove the history of the mountains sacredness in any other form than orally. In this "prayer proposal" the indigenous people needed to disclose the specific time and place they planned on praying. and the Vatican created the great lie that it sold to the world for the past 400 years through use of subversion, corruption and deceit using the secret societies, as well as their own secret army, the S.M.O.M., Sovereign Military Order of MaltaakaKnights of Malta, to do their dirty work including the funding to General Davis to finance the Civil War, Assassinations of Lincoln and JFK, control of all puppets in the White House, Controller of all spook agencies, called The Entity and the greatest purveyor of violence on the world since 1540! From the beginning of the Vatican Observatory project to today the existence of observatory and its location on Mount Graham has been a conflict of science, religion, and ecological protection. In 1873, Mount Graham was removed from the boundaries of the San Carlos Reservation and placed in public domain. You have yet to return the courtesy. <, McLeod, Christoper, and Amy Corbin. * how can the sun and moon can hover at a fixed distance above FE? Teachers to the New Up and Coming Astronomers, The Vatican. Also why do they refuse to allow access to what is most probably the largest collection of ancient writings books tablets etc. Scientific researchers from around the world make use of MGIO facilities. LUCIFER Built On Sacred Indian Burial Grounds. The Vatican Observatory Research Group (VORG) operates the 1.8m Alice P. Lennon Telescope with its Thomas J. Bannan Astrophysics Facility, known together as the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. I can offer a guess based on what I have observed. MGIO is a division of Steward Observatory, the research arm for the Department of Astronomy at the University of Arizona . The means through which they went about acquiring sacred Indian burial land is also another dark stain on the dark agenda of the Roman Catholics Jesuits to control all knowledge (and propaganda) about space. [] Vue Intrieure du Telescope du Vatican L.U.C.I.F.E.R.. 03 Nov. 2012. Funding for the project was only possible with the generosity of private, philanthropic support. This has been fun. Groups of up to six can reserve the 36-inch computerized telescope for a four-hour session. In a solemn audience, held on 10 November 1979 before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the College of Cardinals and the Diplomatic Corps to the Holy See, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the birth of Albert Einstein, John Paul II requested that theologians, scholars and historians, animated by a spirit of sincere collaboration, will study the Galileo case more deeply This desire was concretized in the constitution by the Pope in July 1981 of a commission to coordinate the research of theologians, scientists and historians which would help to further clarify the events which occurred between Galileo and the Church and, more generally, the Ptolemaic Copernican controversy of the 16th and 17th centuries in which the Galileo affair is situated. The mission of VATT is displayed prominently outside the entrance in Latin and in English indoors. 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