Jesus is the Christ! I think Mark E. Peterson was more correct than Russell M. Nelson. The masonic tokens and signs were made up a few hundred years ago. I'm going to give several quotes from this talk, with commentary on each (emphasis in the original). The Temple in the nation of Judah had become a junk room, an unused storage room filled with ungodly things. All comments are moderated before being published. What reinforcements to your testimony and understanding of the gospel are needed. I don't think the people in Christ's day were ever commanded to build temples. Everything taught in the temple, through instruction and through the Spirit, increases our understanding of Jesus Christ. (Matt. The Conference Center during the 191st General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 3, 2021. So helpful! People of all faiths and perspectives are welcome to engage in civil, respectful discussion about topics related to Mormonism. This conference seemed even more centered on our Savior, Jesus Christ than in conferences past. We have been promised that if [we] are prepared [we] shall not fear.This assurance has profound implications today. But thats the place you store stuff that you might not want people to see. The heavens will open and angels will attend. The Nation needed God, and so he decided it would start with him. Just keep living with the beatings until you enjoy it. Im not saying president Nelson is wrong. What this does is once again emphasize to members the need for obedience and conformity. I was so excited for your post even as you are so busy with your move. We welcome these opportunities to build friendship and discuss shared initiatives that will continue to foster understanding and mutual respect. He could have claimed that his relationship with God was strictly personal and stayed tight-lipped about it. These are the latter days. If you have a health issue or other legitimate reason for not being able to attend the temple, set aside time each week to mentally review the covenants and promises that you have made there. President Russell M. Nelson, president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, tours renovation work at the Salt Lake Temple in Salt Lake City on Saturday, May 22, 2021. Reopening the Temple Usher in Gods Presence. Attendees stand near the Conference Center prior to the Sunday morning session of the 191st Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 3, 2021. "`,r'D+H}D2H)k `)X}Xv.`vdT\"}~ (q^
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Can you imagine giving that advice to a battered spouse? PRESCHOOL: Starting as early as 18-months old in our toddler program, we provide a secure and loving place for growth and transition. Our large building features a metaphysical bookstore and supply shop, two large halls, and four classrooms. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. We have to utter it aloud. Instead, he set out with a select few governmental leaders. If you study the talk with the footnotes, you will find that his message goes even deeper. We look to Christs death on the cross, His resurrection, and His power to cancel out our sins and save us from the wrath of God. What do you give away? God lives! The idea was not just to assess the newly restored Temple. Its purpose is to "perfect [or, complete] the saints"to foster spiritual growth into the image of God. President Nelson makes a distinction between covenants and core gospel truths vs. methods and procedures. Make temple covenants your goal and strive to live worthy to enter His holy house. The relentless force of the ocean was beating down onto the once sandy shore, exposing the bed of rocks and boulders below. Now, just think what it might be like if your priority in your kingly duties was not to strengthen your nations power, might, wealth, or influence, but rather to first exalt another kingdom, a kingdom that you do not rule and that is much grander than yours. I hope one day that will be the case. Increased spiritual power brings with it inspiration from the Holy Ghost, which encourages to return to the temple for greater understanding and spiritual power. There are times when we must do the boot camp. Elder Quentin L. Cook teaches about finding personal peace through five works of righteousness (excerpts from the October 2021 general conference). We've been in the latter days for about 200 years now. President Russell M. Nelson, president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, waves to attendees after the Sunday morning session of the 191st Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in in the Conference Center in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 3, 2021. There is a very distinct parallel to each of us today in this passage of Scripture because if we are Christians, then our bodies are called the temple of the Holy Spirit or the temple of the Living God or just the temple of God (see 1 Cor. Weve seen these tactics before, to be sure. How many observe it? He can rid us . The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: That if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved (emphasis mine). May God be continually praised as we seek to honor Him. The takeaway for me is that the Restoration is a process because WE are a process, and more fullness comes as we can handle it. Hewants you to have spiritual insights and awakenings youve never had before. Discover God's peace now. [The Lord] is providing opportunities for each of us to bolster our spiritual foundations more effectively by centering our lives on Him and on the ordinances and covenants of His temple. Hezekiah had a pretty overwhelming task before him. If the Jewish people did not behave like a people meant to represent God - to be a kingdom of spiritual leaders, and a holy people (Exodus 19:6) - what value was the Temple? This true story appears in 2 Chronicles 29. These Levites were told to go in and take out the defiled things (verse 4-5). Do the possible changes make you feel apprehensive or excited? to begin building on your spiritual foundation, you have to start clearing out all the junk, all the sin, and all the unrighteousness in your life that will hinder your ultimate spiritual . The promise from the Lord is that if we are prepared, we need not experience anxiety about or during the times ahead. How do we draw upon the Saviors power? President Nelson starts with a video that highlights the repair work underneath the Salt Lake Temple. Where do you even begin? The morning after Hezekiah got the word that the job was done, he set out to visit the Temple of the Lord. His essential ordinances bind us to Him through sacred priesthood covenants. Lets make a covenant, as Hezekiah did (verse 10) that we will clear the path for the Lord of Hosts to enter in and sup with us and show us what to do for His sake. Realigning a nation back toward God meant calling in a specialized cleaning service, which in those days were the high priests or Levites. The Lord specified the words of the sacrament prayers by revelation, twice (D&C 20; Moroni 4, 5). 12:43-45 for an example).Its imperative that we ask that the Holy Spirit fill our cleansed vessels so that evil cannot reenter. Isnt that so powerful? He asked listeners to consider how firm their spiritual foundations are and what reinforcement their spiritual lives and understanding need. He noted that the Restoration of the gospel and church is an ongoing process, and the same applies to individual lives. But I do attend church, hold a calling, and actually re-listened to the prophet's message. Its where you put things that are broken or unused or ugly. If you were to explain to a friend why going to the temple is so important what would you say? This link was really interesting: https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Question:_Did_Joseph_Smith_make_up_the_temple_ordinances_or_borrow_them_from_an_earthly_source%3F. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. And as the burnt offerings were presented, the Levites and priests played their musical instruments, and songs of praise to the Lord were offered. President Russell M. Nelson, president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, visits with other general authorities after the Sunday morning session of the 191st Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in in the Conference Center in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 3, 2021. Press J to jump to the feed. Seriously, the sacrament is my example of how things DON'T change. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Back in the Old Testament days, Jesus wasnt there to be the atonement, so the people had to sacrifice animals. Tell your class to contemplate President Nelsons statement about taking new measures and write what comes to mind as they consider the following questions: What is the Spirit prompting you to begin doing? If you and I are to withstand the forthcoming perils and pressures, it is imperative that we each have a firm spiritual foundation built upon the rock of our Redeemer, Jesus Christ. "Temple ordinances and covenants are ancient. Half of the Tabernacle Choir at Temple Square performed under the direction of Mack Wilberg and Ryan Murphy. We should celebrate at the wonders our God has done to cleanse us of our unrighteousness every single day. I think this is an appeal to fear. There's even more in this talk, but this post is already long. The Temple and Your Spiritual Foundation - President Russell M. Nelson APRIL 2021 TALKS Our Sorrow Shall Be Turned into Joy - Elder S. Mark Palmer The Grave Has No Victory - Reyna I. Aburto I Love to See the Temple - President Henry B. Eyring Defending Our Divinely Inspired Constitution - President Dallin H. Oaks document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. To each of you who has made temple covenants, I plead with you to seek prayerfully and consistently to understand temple covenants and ordinances. I promise you that over time, the temple will become a place of safety, solace, and. Before you get discouraged and start to think Man, this is going to take years to get my spiritual house back in order and give up, I have a very encouraging word for you from this same passage in the Old Testament. God lives! You may find his complete talk here. The temple lies at the center of strengthening our faith and spiritual fortitude because the Savior and His doctrine are the very heart of the temple. Lets get serious about our walk with the Lord. Sister Sharon Eubank talks about the Churchs humanitarian aid efforts and how we can serve others and help the poor (excerpts from the October 2021 general conference). "Their worship is a farce, for they teach man-made ideas as commands from God. I know I sometimes come off as an angry disaffected member, but that's only because this is the only place I can vent. Christ comes like a thief (24:43) 8. Everything taught in the temple, through instruction and through the Spirit, increases our understanding of Jesus Christ. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. hbbd```b`` z ? Now is the time to develop that relationship and that understanding. We have to place our trust in God and not ourselves from that moment on. Above all, its the room you hope no guests will ever see, because if they saw your junk, you would likely be embarrassed or ashamed. President Russell M. Nelson, president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, speaks during the Sunday morning session of the 191st Semiannual General Conference in the Conference Center in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 3, 2021. You cant just simply make a pathway so you can open and close the door. Other messages from the October 2021 General Conference that I have found particularly impactful: Thank you for sharing your takeaways from Conference and what you will be personally pondering and working on the next 6 months. It has never been more important to seek personal peace.. It was . If you have an immediate prayer need, please call our 24-hour prayer line at 800-700-7000. CBN's ministry is made possible by the support of our CBN Partners. His essential ordinances bind us to Him through sacred priesthood covenants. He is the One who wants you to experience fully His sacred ordinances. Ask Him how you can rededicate your life to holy service to Him. I am very thankful that I know we have a Prophet to lead us and if we follow the counsel he shares, we can bear these troubling times. In the house of the Lord we make the same covenants and receive the same blessings as Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Elder Dale G. Renlund teaches how to abolish contention and enmity and establish unity and peace through the love of God (excerpts from the October 2021 general conference). Even the best videos turn a group passive, and they slow down participation so as a teacher, I would skip playing media. In the October 2021 General Conference, Pres. We take ourselves off of the throne and put Christ back into His high place as King of our lives. Latter-day Saints must take unprecedented measures to strengthen their spiritual foundations like the extraordinary effort to reinforce the original, pioneer-era foundation of the iconic Salt Lake Temple, President Russell M. Nelson said Sunday morning.. We steadily get better and upgrade towards Zion. The opening prayer was provided by Elder David F. Evans, who was released Saturday as a General Authority Seventy. And what reinforcements to your testimony and understanding of the gospel are needed? Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. Required fields are marked *. The ongoing Restoration needs ongoing revelation. I nearly laughed out loud listening to that. As far as attending the temple, I have felt like my husband and I are doing very well. Attendees walk into the Conference Center prior to the Sunday morning session of the 191st Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 3, 2021. Well said. In late May, I inspected the progress on this massive project. Have you ever tried to clean up your act by yourself? The ultimate objective of the gathering of Israel is to bring the blessings of the temple to Gods faithful children. 22:38, 39.) on The Temple and Your Spiritual Foundation, House of Glory: Finding Personal Meaning in the Temple, {REVIEW} The Good and the Beautiful Science: Mammals, MRI / Hearing Screening / Genetic Testing, The Need for a Church The Berning Bunch. We are ever moving towards more power and more significant benefit for us all. Lets go back to the story of Hezekiah. This is a prophetic warning. CBN is a global ministry committed to preparing the nations of the world for the coming of Jesus Christ through mass media. They werent doing some PBS special about how the Temple got restored where King Hezekiah could say, Hey, look what I have done.. Why is President Nelson expressing urgency with our spiritual preparedness what do you see happening in the world around you that supports his haste? This He desires foralltemple patrons, no matter where they live.. The ultimate objective of the gathering of Israelis to bring the blessings of the temple to God's faithful children. The ultimate objective of the gathering of Israelis to bring the blessings of the temple to Gods faithful children. And I agreed. Attending the temple and keeping the covenants we make there blesses us with greater understanding of Christ and increases our spiritual power. Spiritual doors will open. You are free to choose who you will be and with whom you will be in the world to come! While it is true that the ancients offered sacrifice, where is the evidence that in ancient times people did anything like what we have in Mormon temples? President Nelson makes if very clear (with emphasis added) who is making the changes, and it's not him. Hello! The procedures and practices around administering the ordinances of the temple have been changed and refined under direction from the Lord, but the doctrine and the covenants found in the temple are the same. We are here to help and encourage you! President Nelson along with his counselors in the First Presidency, At the Seminar for New Mission Leaders in June, President Nelson taught how, President Nelson tweeted on June 14 about hosting leaders of the. It was their job to sanctify the sanctuary of the Lord and usher the people back to worship (Ex. Many times, cultural teachings have crept in and disguised themselves as doctrine, which leads to perplexing situations and uncomfortable course corrections. Here are five key areas: 1. the University of Utah honored President Nelson, President Nelsons 97th birthday on Sept. 9, repeated, miraculous tutoring prepared Joseph Smith, first post on his Spanish Instagram account, National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and United Negro College Fund, Read more October 2021 general conference coverage. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/introduction-to-family-history-student-manual/chapter-10?lang=eng. When expanded it provides a list of search options that will switch the search . Indeed, 'whenever the Lord has had a people on the earth who will obey His word, they have been commanded to build temples.' He delivered the message, accompanied by striking video and other images of his visit to the renovation site in May, during the 191st Semiannual General Conference. All must be saved on the same principles [Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, sel. Choose the questions that resonate the most with you and make a meaningful discussion for your group of personalities. (About 2 minutes play background music or have quiet time). Meanwhile, the TBMs in my life hear it and are terrified about the coming perils and are doubling down. This is His Church, restored to help you fulfill your divine destiny.. Likewise, the safest place to be spiritually is living inside your temple covenants., When an individuals spiritual foundation is built solidly upon Jesus Christ, he or she will have no need to fear. They were the only ones who could do the job because they had obediently kept themselves pure in the sight of God. In some instances, the spiritual stress test has shown tendencies toward contention and divisiveness. Get more than a Sunday sermon. Let us uphold the covenant inherent in our discipleship the covenant to be one., Why do we want the Savior to be the author and finisher of our stories? His essential ordinances bind us to Him through sacred priesthood covenants. The inclusive spiritual community honors all faiths nurturing personal transformation. If individuals are going to withstand the forthcoming perils and pressures, they must have a firm spiritual foundation built upon the rock of the Redeemer, Jesus Christ. Those who are quick to take offense or respond to a difference of opinion by becoming angry or judgmental fail the spiritual stress test, he said. A squirrel scampers near the Conference Center during the Sunday morning session of the 191st General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 3, 2021. . I promise you that over time, the temple will become a place of safety, solace, and revelation. And oh, how we will need His power in the days ahead. And heres why. The standard works are replete with references to temple teachings, clothing, language, and more. The Restoration is a process, not an event, and will continue until the Lord comes again. Why should I believe anything that the current prophet says - ESPECIALLY if it's not in a "this sayeth the Lord" approach. Attendees sing a congregational hymn during the Sunday morning session of the 191st Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the Conference Center in Salt Lake City on Sunday, Oct. 3, 2021. (I think the prophet knows something that we may not yet understand!) What are some unique anxieties of our time and how can we have courage and hope despite their difficulties? Share the highlights you remember and what stood out to you. Then, as we keep our covenants, He endows us with His healing, strengthening power. We keep the covenants we make in the temple and receive healing and spiritual power. What is the Spirit prompting you to do without? The Lord instructed Adam and Eve to pray, make covenants, and offer sacrifices. Consider how administering the sacrament has changed over the years. Maybe its the place where you hoard things. 6:16; Eph. Its an important sound bite to be aware of: Current adjustments in temple procedures, and others that will follow, are continuing evidence that the Lord is actively directing His Church., He also says, Under the Lords direction and in answer to our prayers, recent procedural adjustments have been made. Unlike the wandering test subjects, we have reliable, visible landmarks that we can use to evaluate our course, he said. Nobody changes the principles and [doctrine] of the Church except the Lord by revelation. Latter-day Saints must take unprecedented measures to strengthen their spiritual foundations like the extraordinary effort to reinforce the original, pioneer-era foundation of the iconic Salt Lake Temple, President Russell M. Nelsonsaid Sunday morning. Credit: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Because he knows our potential perfectly, he will take us to places we never imagined ourselves. Faith. Oh how grateful I am for a living prophet! Fill the earth with the light and warmth of compelling truths. The Temple and Your Spiritual Foundation Whenever any kind of upheaval occurs in . We are sparing no effort to give this venerable temple, which had become increasingly vulnerable, a foundation that will withstand the forces of nature into the Millennium, President Nelson said. Copyright 2021 Elizabeth Burr Your diligent efforts to do so will reinforce and strengthen your spiritual foundation. "Temple covenants and the garment are not for perfect people. The temple will become a place of safety, solace, and revelation. The temple lies at the center of strengthening faith and spiritual fortitude because everything taught in the temple increases understanding of Jesus Christ. Other leaders shared messages about order, straight paths and unity. He suggested five works of righteousness to help members find peace among disputation and contention: Human beings tend to wander, a fact proved in a study that showed people without landmarks walk in circles, said Elder Dieter F. Uchtdorf of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. We create a nurturing environment in a Jewish atmosphere of warmth and love where each child has the opportunity to grow . They are central to Mormon temple ordinances but are never mentioned anciently at all. Begin with the temple. The temples spires have been removed and stored, the towers are surrounded by scaffolding and the foundation exposed for the work to strengthen them. I am grateful for his direction. And secret names before allowing you back in heaven. Have you ever received revelation in the temple regarding your own life? I don't think we make the same covenants with God that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob made (see below). It is imperative that we daily dedicate ourselves to the Lord and offer our bodies, our temples, as instruments of righteousness. preorder your april 2023 general conference workbook! The following is a summary of what he said. We attend the temple and receive greater understanding of our Lord Jesus Christ. Learn how your comment data is processed. If we have experienced a radical rededication to our Savior, then we need to proclaim it loudly and joyously as Hezekiah did. President Henry B. Eyring teaches us how to receive revelation by exercising faith (excerpts from the October 2021 general conference). October 2021 General Conference: President Russell M. Nelson - "The Temple and Your Spiritual Foundation" Study Guide and Lesson Helps for Relief Society $ 4.00 Available Description DIGITAL DOWNLOAD Please SIGN UP FOR A FREE MEMBERSHIP to download your order instantly. In the years before his reign, the people of Judah had turned away from the Lord and done evil. 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